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phinnia ([personal profile] phinnia) wrote2009-03-22 01:43 pm
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man wins lawsuit against polio vaccine maker after he was infected with polio through his daughter's poop. she'd had a live oral vaccine. talk about one in a million odds. more information here.

(you just know there's going to be at least one fool out there that won't get their child vaccinated now because of this.)

biker brawl in sydney airport.

rare star to supernova link established.

deadly nerve toxin affects deep sea creatures.

today, things are even more boring than yesterday. more cleaning, some unpacking, blah blah blah, boring. not even nice enough to go to the park.

this coming week is my last week of freedom before yet another week of pointless school holidays. good times. or something. i hate our school board for this; unfortunately transferring him to another district is nowhere near feasible, and us moving to another district is even worse if we want to do things like get around during the day (chris can't drive and neither can i, although for entirely different reasons.)

*suppresses the usual rant* where would i go to get an explanation for the number of idiotic school holidays?

[identity profile] benjimmy.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know they still vaccinated for polio... Huh. Anyway, there'd have to be a virus-to-blood transmission, I should think. So either he had a cut on his hand, in which case he shouldn't have been touching poo, or he didn't wash his hands after, and then touched, dunno, his mouth or something, in which case, gross.

Some people...

Although I know a guy who didn't change his daughter's diapers for more than a month after she was born. I (the babysitter) changed her diaper before he did. That's just sad. :-(

[identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
oh no, it's an oral 'vaccine' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine).they don't do that so much now, but this has been trying to be settled for the past 30 years.

and yes, they do still vaccinate for polio. the bacteria are still hanging around out there (and there are some people who can't be vaccinated - people with certain allergies, people that have had bad reactions to previous vaccines, people with compromised immune systems) so the more people that get vaccines. the less likely it is for these people to be exposed to those illnesses. does that make sense? this is why i get so utterly pissed at idiots that don't vaccinate their kids because of some lies they've heard on oprah by that goddamn playboy bunny bitch who thinks that having an autistic kid makes her a health care expert ...
sorry about that. i got rant on you.

[identity profile] benjimmy.livejournal.com 2009-03-22 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, so it's an inactive/dead virus taken orally... gotcha. Seems a bit odd. Seems even odder that it could be transmissed to another person. Huge long shot. He must have been incredibly unlucky. But what I meant is that the virus from the vaccine (whether active or inactive) would have had to travel into her poo, and then into his bloodstream from said poo.

Yeah, I think it's stupid that people don't get their kids vaccinated, unless there's an obvious reason not to (like, I almost died from the pertussis vaccine the first time, so I wasn't given it again, obviously). But perfectly healthy kids not getting their measles vax for some idiotic, unproven propaganda-laden reason, and then going and dying from measles. Ridiculous. These 'killer' measles vaccines are given at 18 months, most autistic kids start showing the more obvious signs around then, not a stretch to say it's just a coincidence. But they just won't believe it. *sigh*

[identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com 2009-03-23 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I think polio is specifically fecal-to-oral. Meaning that it is, in fact, very likely that he changed her diaper and didn't wash his hands well enough.

(I guess fecal-to-blood would probably work. I can't imagine why it wouldn't, at least.)

I'm not sure this belongs in courts as a lawsuit, though. It sounds more like something that should get reimbursement for the special fund that deals with vaccination problems.

[identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com 2009-03-23 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
i think that's where the money came from? not sure. one of those links is the actual legal brief from the case, so there were lawyers involved somewhere.