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phinnia ([personal profile] phinnia) wrote2008-02-23 11:19 am

saturday morning, who's gonna play with me?

So in the Search For Military School or At Least Other Options which took place yeterday afternoon (you thought I was kidding, didn't you? Hell no.) we did find out a few things:


  • There are actually Autism With A Side Of Blindness Experts out there. They're based out of Portland. They're holding a seminar in Yakima this summer. I'm so there, dude. Or at least I want their literature.
  • The Child needs An Intensive Behaviour Plan over the summer, if nothing else, because we are lacking mojo for teaching him important things like life skills, and if he doesn't get structure he goes crazy and I want to send him to military school. Must Yell At Psychiatrist to make this happen.
  • Daycamp is worth the money. (see above note re: structure.)


Teh Spouse, because he is A Crazy Person, has musings on fandom, crackfic and a Quest for Ultimate Evil here. You should read it, for he is a Funny Crazy Person..

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Does your respite come with hours for SUPPORTED COMUNITY LIVING therapy? Or your waiver? That's what kiddo is getting. His respite place also does SCL, and does life skills stuff. So does his OT, as far as eating goes.

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Respite hours have run out, but Microsoft covers OT, PT, speech/language all at 100%, and reimburses ABA therapy with a therapist at 80% and with a therapy assistant at 100%.

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow. I just had my respite upped by the state, but then I only get about 6-12 hours a week of it. And the SCL is with the same people so they'll just do SCL stuff if the respite is coming up short. And my waiver covers all the stuff our private insurance doesn't cover. (Which is RANDOM)

[identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Chuckle. Now I'm starting to understand why folks quest for the blue badge so heavily!

Hey... you're a programmer, if I remember right. Do you do C#? Would you mind if I pumped your brain a bit?

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Right on both counts—I'm a programmer, and I do C#. I can also do C++, VB .NET (under duress, but that's what most programmers who work at Microsoft seem to say about VB .NET), VBScript, and some command scripting. Whatcha wanna know?

[identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I answered my immediate question the way I should have - I used a test program and discovered the answer. But if it's okay, and if your LJ e-mails work, I might pester you if I run into something I can't answer.

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2008-03-06 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
That should be fine—my LJ email address always tries to point to my current email address.

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, to clarify: respite paid for by the state has run out. I suppose that, technically, refering to any babysitting that we pay out of pocket for as "respite" is a bit of a misnomer.

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What is this thing, "supported community living therapy"? I must know ... especially since that might be covered, too—or at least it might be worth payhing out of pocket for.

[identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, Ted is on medicaid waivers, which is what we get respite thru, since the agencies here don't accept out of pocket for respite. He gets the MR waiver because he was evaluated as possibly having mild mental retardation and quite honestly, that's the easiest waiver to get on in my state. Ok

SCL is when his respite person takes him to a restaurant with the express purpose of learning to eat in public with no problems. We have goals set with the agency. Eat in public. Get a haircut (something he will ONLY do with her, never with me). Safety goals (don't dart into the street, wander off, talk to strangers). She will practice street crossing, count the prompts needed to see if he will look both ways, things like that. We have financial goals, to help him later on. When he goes to a store he needs to do this without prompts: Pick his item out, put it on the counter, hand the person money, wait for change. Even if he can't count it. He can't live independently if he walks into stores, takes items and leaves. So these baby steps will teach him financial skills. They count if he needs to be prompted to put it on the counter (one time, no time, six times of TED PUT THAT ON THE CUONTER). Evaluate if he screams when he doesn't have it, and so on. Later goals for older kids are things like navigating the bus system. WOrkers go on the bus with them and see if they can ask for a transfer, ring the bell at the right stop, check the schedule, and so on.

Socialization is part of it. Some agencies have group SCL. They take a number of kids bowling, swimming, out to eat, and so on. Out in public to make it easier for them to be part of the community.

Learning to use the library can be part of this, too. Learning to find the police when in trouble, use a pay phone or a cell phone, dressing appropriately, all that. Older ones will learn what you need to buy when you go to the store. Toothpaste, milk, bread. SOme have people who even go to a workplace (we have a lot of employees that hire disabled people) to help them learn their job.

SCL is also used in a group home or supervised living environment. Agencies have apartment buildings that maybe have someone on staff 24/7 in the building. Some agencies just check up on young adults/adults in private apartments to make sure they are eating, practicing basic hygiene, keeping clean, stuff like that. The whole point of SCL is so that people can be as independent as possible. Oh yeah, even things like how to keep from being exploited sexually or in other ways are things that some people need to learn before moving out as adults.

Some links that explain the services:
http://ia.easterseals.com/site/PageServer?pagename=IADR_comm_living
http://thechp.syr.edu/toolkit/#PLANNING_FOR_QUALITY_COMMUNITY_SUPPORTS is REALLY long but the links on that page give sample action plans that can be made.
http://www.cumberlandriver.com/scl_serv.html has some examples.
http://www.dubuque.k12.ia.us/specialed/index.html#transitions is from our school district and has some useful information, even though our children are so young. Knowing how people view transitioning to the adult world helps parents make goals and build the foundation. Those goals are what the SCL people keep in mind when coming up with a care plan.

If your respite person came through an agency, ask them if they do SCL. If you ever got the state $ for respite, ask if they have $ for SCL and if they have a list of providers or if your respite person can do it. We prefer having the same person do both. Oh, some summer camps are considered SCL if they teach skills for independent living/living in the least restrictive environment.

Hope this helps. Ask away if you have questions, I'm not the best at explaining things.